Challenging the Gold Standard

Interview with Profound Medical CEO Arun Menawat

Key Learnings From Arun's Experience

  • Resist the urge to rush to market and don't cut corners during development, even when facing financial pressures. Building credibility with future users requires comprehensive clinical data and a willingness to address their specific concerns. For Profound, this meant voluntarily delaying their CPT code application by a year at the AMA's suggestion to gather more real-world evidence — a difficult decision that ultimately led to unanimous approval. For truly disruptive technologies, credibility is essential for both regulatory clearance and market adoption.


  • Strategically design clinical trials to build trust with physicians and decision makers to overcome the inherent skepticism that comes with disruptive technologies. Profound designed a head-to-head comparative trial against the current standard of care — an ambitious move that exceeded minimum regulatory requirements. This approach, while requiring more extensive resources upfront, can create compelling evidence that may unlock adoption from even the most conservative practitioners.


  • When scaling disruptive medical technologies beyond the cadre of early adopters, create strategic partnerships to achieve broader adoption. While innovators willingly adapt their workflows, mainstream providers require seamless implementation. Profound Medical's partnership with Siemens exemplifies this principle — bundling MRI capabilities with their novel technology eliminates coordination barriers that would otherwise slow market penetration. This enables novel devices to integrate within existing clinical ecosystems rather than forcing workflow revolution.

Imagine being diagnosed with cancer in the morning, treated in the afternoon, and going home the same day to tell your family, "I was diagnosed, but don't worry, I'm cancer-free." This isn't science fiction — it's the vision that has driven Arun Menawat through nearly nine years as CEO of Profound Medical.

Profound Medical's flagship TULSA-PRO system is making this vision a reality for prostate cancer patients. The technology starts by placing the patient in an MRI scanner, allowing surgeons to precisely visualize the prostate and surrounding structures. Using AI, the system automatically defines the boundaries of the prostate, keeping critical nerve bundles and muscles intact. A small tube inserted into the center of the prostate delivers ultrasound waves that heat the tissue to exactly 57 degrees Celsius — the temperature at which tissue dies instantly.

"The surgeon is just sitting and watching the screen. They're only interfering if something has to be changed," Arun says. "At 57 degrees, the tissue dies. And then you pull the catheter, no incision, no blood loss, no hospital stay. Patient wakes up, and the only reason they know that a procedure is done is because there's a catheter to keep that warm prostate safe for a few days."

This approach dramatically reduces the debilitating side effects associated with traditional prostate cancer treatments. While robotic surgery and radiation can leave up to 20% of patients incontinent and 50% with erectile dysfunction, TULSA-PRO preserves these functions by avoiding damage to the surrounding nerves and muscles.

"In today's world, where men want to be active, they don't want to be incontinent. They want to go play golf, they don't need to change diapers all the time. They certainly want to have a full life and not lose their sexual function," Arun emphasizes. "There's a serious unmet need."

With FDA clearance, a new Medicare reimbursement code as of January 2025, and installations at over 50 sites that have treated approximately 4,000 patients, Profound Medical is now in active commercialization mode. But the path to this point required strategic decision-making and a deep commitment to building credibility at every step.

CEO of Profound Medical

Dr. Arun Menawat is Chairman and CEO of Profound Medical, a medical device company commercializing customizable, incision-free therapies for the ablation of diseased tissue. Before joining Profound in 2016, Arun served as the Chairman and CEO of Novadaq Technologies for 13 years, guiding the company from a startup to one of the fastest-growing, NASDAQ-listed medical technology businesses with a market cap exceeding one billion USD. Earlier in his career, Arun served as President of Cedara Software, a company that developed the industry’s first medical imaging software platform. Today, it’s part of IBM’s Watson Health.

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Building Credibility Through Development: Taking the Long View

For disruptive medical technologies, cutting corners during development can be fatal to eventual success. Early in Profound's journey, Arun recognized that the company needed to prioritize building credibility over speed to market.

"If you don't spend the time to develop the technology properly, it will come back and bite you. You won't be able to commercialize it," Arun explains. "If you don't spend the time on the clinical development, the surgeons will say, 'Yeah, this looks like an interesting technology, come back when you have all the clinical data.'"

This approach means resisting the constant pressure startups face to move faster, and instead, focusing on creating a solid foundation of clinical evidence and user feedback.

Arun focuses on building a good reputation with end users through comprehensive clinical evidence. Instead of simply meeting minimum requirements, Profound designed its clinical trials to address physicians' specific concerns about treating different patient populations.

For Profound, this strategy took concrete form in their TACT (Transurethral Ultrasound Ablation of the Prostate) pivotal trial. The trial enrolled 115 patients across 13 sites in North America and Europe. Rather than focusing only on ideal cases, the study included men with different risk profiles. TACT demonstrated that TULSA-PRO could effectively treat these diverse cases while preserving urinary and sexual function.

This comprehensive approach allowed Profound's team to respond to physician concerns with actual data rather than theoretical arguments. When urologists expressed hesitation about treating patients with particular characteristics, Profound could point to specific outcomes from their trials, strengthening their position through evidence rather than marketing claims.

Here’s the bottom line: Making difficult investment decisions in thorough development and clinical validation pays off, even when capital is limited. The credibility earned becomes a powerful asset when approaching risk-averse clinicians, ultimately determining whether your innovative technology will be adopted or rejected in the marketplace.

Strategic Clinical Trials: Going Beyond Regulatory Requirements

One of Profound's boldest moves was conducting a head-to-head clinical trial comparing TULSA-PRO against the current standard of care, radical prostatectomy. While many would consider this approach risky, Arun saw it as a calculated strategic investment.

"For startup CEOs, there are times you decide to take risk, and I'm certainly not afraid to do that," Arun says. 

In Profound’s case, when asking urologists to transition from current robotic systems to the company’s new technology, they needed compelling evidence that this wasn't just another buzzword-driven innovation but would genuinely improve patient outcomes.

This trial, called CAPTAIN (Comparative Analysis of PCa Treatment Using TULSA vs. Radical INtervention), faced significant recruitment challenges that had derailed similar comparative studies in prostate cancer treatment. However, Profound's previous clinical work had laid crucial groundwork.

"Had we started the CAPTAIN trial earlier without that early data and that experience of our users, I think we probably would not have designed the trial properly," Arun reflects. "One of the things that helped us take that educated risk was the fact that we had done some broad early work that gave us the confidence that indeed we will be able to recruit."

The strategic value of this comparative data extends beyond physician adoption to payer coverage and societal guidelines. "Societies will be able to go and say, 'We can recommend it.' Insurance companies will be able to say, 'Yeah, we can see it in a comparative trial,'" Arun explains.

Rather than viewing this investment in comparative data as strictly a commercial expense, Arun frames it as a strategic alternative to traditional sales approaches: "I could have spent a lot of money in trying to recruit salespeople and be hard charging versus spend some money here to be able to produce data that they can now clearly sell,” he says. This falls in line with their primary goal of unlocking interest from early adopters and payers.

When Going Public Pre-Revenue Makes Sense

While many medtech companies follow a path of multiple private funding rounds before considering public markets, Profound took a different approach. Arun brings valuable perspective on financing disruptive medical technologies, having led multiple companies through the transition from private to public funding.

"My general thought has always been to wait as long as you can to go to public markets, because once you go to public markets, every quarter matters," Arun explains. As a rule, he advises startups to remain private as long as possible because early-stage development timelines rarely align well with the quarterly expectations of public markets.

Despite this principle, Profound Medical went public unusually early — before FDA clearance and before generating revenue. This decision stemmed partly from the limited venture capital ecosystem in Canada, where the company is based.

The more compelling reason, however, was the capital-intensive nature of developing medical technology that is truly innovative. "The first rule is I want to stay private, but the second rule is you cannot build companies that are game-changing with a treatment modality unless you have sufficient cash to do it," Arun notes. Public markets offered the necessary capital to fully develop TULSA-PRO without cutting corners.

Beyond simply accessing capital, Arun emphasizes the importance of finding the right investor base. Rather than pursuing any available funding, Profound sought investors who understood the long-term development cycles of medical devices and could appreciate the technology's potential beyond quarterly results.

A balanced approach to funding represents an important strategic consideration. While private funding may offer more flexibility during early development, accessing public markets at the right time can provide the substantial capital needed to fully realize disruptive technologies — provided you find investors aligned with your long-term vision.

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The Trust-Building Playbook for Medical Device Reimbursement

Perhaps the most significant milestone in Profound's journey was securing a CPT Category I reimbursement code from Medicare in January 2025. This achievement — a challenging feat for many early-stage medtech companies — came through a methodical approach to building relationships with influential clinicians, key opinion leaders, and medical societies.

The key to Profound's reimbursement strategy was leveraging the authority of physicians who had firsthand experience with the technology. A turning point came when the Chief Medical Officer (CMO) of an organization that had adopted TULSA-PRO became an advocate for the technology. Rather than Profound attempting to directly approach medical society members — whose identities they wouldn't typically even know — this physician used his professional network to make introductions.

This created what Arun describes as a "pull mechanism" instead of the usual corporate push. When a respected CMO contacts his peers to recommend they seriously consider a new technology, doors open that might otherwise remain closed to corporate representatives making the same request.

When Profound finally had the opportunity to present to medical societies, they maintained their commitment to transparency. Their presentations included not only the technology's capabilities and supporting data but also clear explanations of which patients might not be suitable candidates for the procedure. This honest approach about both strengths and limitations further enhanced their credibility with decision-makers.

"We want to be loyal to where our technology works and where it doesn't work as well," Arun notes, explaining how this candor ultimately proved more effective than overselling the technology's capabilities.

This approach earned such strong support that some societies urged Profound to secure reimbursement as quickly as possible. But Profound faced an unusual situation: the American Medical Association (AMA) advised them to wait before applying for reimbursement to gather more real-world evidence.

"The AMA at the last minute called us and said, 'Hey, your technology is good. Your society members are all fired up about this, but you haven't really treated enough patients yet,'" Arun recalls. Despite the potential delay, Profound followed this advice. "I called all the society members and said, 'We’ve got to pull back a year before we can get to all this.' It was just a very interesting process because it's rare for the CEO of the company to say, 'Well, let's pull back a year on this.'"

The patience paid off. When Profound eventually did apply for the CPT code, "it was a slam dunk,” Arun recalls. “No questions on the floor. Everyone knew what it was. It was approved in literally 30 seconds."

Commercialization: Meeting Users Where They Are

As Profound transitions from early adoption to broader commercialization, mainstream healthcare providers require different support than early adopters.

"When we go into the mainstream, that's a different environment because they're not looking to go an extra mile for you," Arun explains. "They're basically saying, 'Well, if this is happening, I'm going to adopt it as a mainstream adopter, but you do everything for me.'"

To meet that expectation, Profound’s TULSA-PRO is designed to pair with existing MRI scanners in hospitals. Building on this approach, Profound established a strategic partnership with Siemens Healthineers to create TULSA Plus – an integrated solution that combines Siemens’ MAGNETOM MR scanner and Profound’s TULSA-PRO system as a complete package. For mainstream adopters unwilling to coordinate separate technologies, this bundled solution eliminates implementation barriers by providing everything they need in one place.

This approach demonstrates a fundamental commercialization principle: successful disruptive technologies must adapt to existing healthcare environments rather than expecting providers to overhaul their workflows. By recognizing that most physicians require different levels of support than early adopters, Profound adjusted its commercialization approach to meet customers where they are.

Closing Insights From Profound’s Path

As Profound demonstrates, bringing truly disruptive technologies to market requires patience, strategic vision, and stakeholder engagement. 

The company's disciplined approach — from voluntarily delaying CPT code application to conducting head-to-head trials — shows how building trust through evidence can ultimately accelerate adoption. This framework offers a potential blueprint for medical innovators: invest in comprehensive validation, build compelling comparative evidence, and reduce implementation barriers through partnerships grounded in clinical realities.

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